Joshua(JT) Tiernan from NoCode Founders
TLDR;Some Good Quotes
- Um, so for me, the really exciting part of nocode is the fact that it lowers the bar for entry to everyone. Becausefor me, I'm not a developer, so I've always felt like a complete imposter, liketrying to build tech businesses.
- What the modern No Code still allows you to dois to have that same level of product, but without the technical expertise.
- Where does no code go from here? “I think nocode is going to be so big that people don't call it no code anymore. It willjust be normal.”
NoCode is the future. The NoCode movement allows everyone to get on the same level without having a degree in computer science or know every coding language. It gives the opportunity for people who are passionate about their work to get it up online and to create a viable platform for their business. NoCode does not mean easy though. You will fail and you will need to spend hours learning about these building platforms, and that is where your pure passion, drive, and desire to succeed comes in.
Interview with JT
[00:00:00] Jeremy: Thatworks. There we go. All right. I think, I think it's recording. We're live.We're on, uh, Josh, are you ready to be not boring business? I
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: Iam
Jeremy: the one.Why don't you tell everyone a little about yourself, where you're from and thenwhy don't we get into why everyone's in the no-code space seems to be fromEurope.
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: yeah,I'm at GTM based in Edinburgh, Scotland, and I run a community called founders,which is primarily a Slack in February in 2000. No coders building businesseswith their code. Um, and I'm also just launching a newsletter called how tofail at business, which is my story of feeling a business for 10 years and someother interesting stuff about feeling.
[00:01:00] And, uh,
Jeremy: how I, howto fail at business? Yes. Okay. So I love that. Like, is it it, does that haveanything to do with the no-code space or? No, not really. It's just kind of,
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: notdirectly. It's just, it's more like an entrepreneurship with me. Oh,
Jeremy: got you.Okay.
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: Yeah.Mmm. And those are, those are my two main projects at the moment.
I've had other, no quick projects in the past. I've sold acouple of them off and, and then I'm just hit, thrown in an awkward and awkwardmovement.
Jeremy: Are youable to, like, I just want to, I'll quickly throw this out there. Like thecommunity is not paid, right? It's not a paid community, Slack community.
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: No.
Jeremy: Is thereany way else to monetize it right now?
Or like, have you been able to monetize it or make a living
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: offit? Yeah, so to monetize it, I have a, like a create partnerships with no codeplatforms. Um, and I've been toying and with, with taking it down to Patriot,[00:02:00] but like there's advantages and disadvantages to both, both ways. So
Jeremy: tell mehow many people do you think you could at what percentage could you convert?
You said it's a little over 2000 people now. So how, howmany of those people do you think would convert to a paid plan? Let's say 10,15 a month, 10 bucks a month.
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: Maybeif it was purely the Slack, you'd probably convert 5%,
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: maybe10.
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: Butyeah, I don't think people are that into paying for Slack.
It's like, well,
Jeremy: you know,what's funny is that I tell you a V one is in the launch accelerator. You know,Jason Calacanis is launch accelerator and there is an entire company in launchright now that is dedicated. That is a Slack community. And they make likekiller money. They charged like it, it gives discounts on things it's calledsoul savvy.
So shout out to [00:03:00] Deon and soul savvy. Um, but it'sa Slack community and they have monetized it like 30, 40, $50,000 a month.Something like that. Yeah. It's insane. It's amazing. Through, throughmemberships, through memberships, through memberships and Slack, they built,it's a complete no-code thing. I'm going to I'll have him on the podcast, butlike, um, yeah, so that big, right?
Like they've been able to. Monetize the community and it'sfor sneaker heads. It is sole savvy. I think it's, well, I know it's calledsolo savvy, but I don't know the website, um, Google soul savvy, and you'llpull up their website and they use all these no code tools and Xavier to getpeople discounts on seat.
It's not discounts, I don't think, but it is like you jointhe Slack community and they've built. Bots and no-code tools that essentiallygive alerts to like, Oh, this sneaker went on sale now. So it will alert youright now, so you can buy it and think it's pretty cool. And [00:04:00] they'vebuilt that. I forget if it's 30, 40, 50,000 somewhere around there, like it's ashit ton of money.
So like they've built like a huge community around Slack. Ithink it's pretty impressive. And you have the biggest Slack community, nocode. It's gotta be right. I
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: thinkso. Yeah. I think, I don't know of any others.
Jeremy: Do you thinkthat hurts SEO at all? Like it being all in Slack or messages, why did youchoose Slack?
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: SoSlack, because I thought it was the lowest friction option. Um, so peoplealready use Slack for other communities. So that's already their destinationplace to go to for community. So you're not like trying to educate them into anew platform or something like that. Mmm. So yeah, like fiction for sayingthat, but also for re-engagement.
Jeremy: Yeah, Isee. [00:05:00] Yeah, I see that. And I, I told, I was telling my wife once Iwas like, yeah, cool. We could have, we could make a Slack community withwhatever we were doing. I don't forget. It was offhand like months ago. And shewas like, Well, like wouldn't, I mean, what about people that aren't familiarwith Slack?
Right? Like I get people in the workplace that have Slack,but at the same time, if you're asking, you know, Mary Sue and PrairievilleIndiana to download Slack, right? Like these non technical people, is that afriction point? Should you do it on Facebook? I'm sure you've thought about it.Right. But like, Like Fe everyone knows Facebook and everyone has theirFacebook knitting groups.
Right? Like, is it just kind of the audience you were goingafter and Slack fit or,
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: Imean, I think the, the no code movement's really amazing on Twitter and
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: likeall the cool kids on Twitter with ones who like Twitter, [00:06:00] don't likeFacebook. So,
Jeremy: ah, that'sfucking smart. That's good. Josh. I like that. See, I liked that.
I liked that insight though, man. Like that's really greatinsight. I've only discovered this no-code community in the last fucking twoweeks dude. Like, and the more I P I, the more I have people on here, the moreI really enjoy the people and the sites and the things that are happening. Itseems very nascent.
Right. But at the same time, it's like a lot of room togrow. A lot of communities being built, a lot of new entrance. So in those newentrance, how does no code founders rise above,
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: um,and separate ourselves from the pack?
Jeremy: Yeah. Howdoes, how does the cream, how does the creams, how do you become the cream thatgets separated?
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: Sothere is kind of a bit of a land [00:07:00] grab at the moment in the wholeNorthwood space, because there's just so many opportunities and everyone'strying to get something going. I think, uh, for no-code founders, we have moreof the entrepreneurship angle. Um, where as a lot of the other stuff focusesmore on the building aspect on how to make, actually make the product.
Um, so for me, the really exciting part of no code is thefact that it lowers the bar for entry to everyone. Because for me, I'm not adeveloper, so I've always felt like a complete imposter, like trying to buildtech businesses. But almost hang out with that cord. So what the modern Norcotills allow you to do is to have that same.
Level of product, but without the technical expertise. So[00:08:00] I think what's really exciting is what's going to be coming in thenext few years as real businesses at the moment. There's a lot of side hustlesand saved projects coming in, but when there's going to be real businesses and,um, launching and knock wood Mmm.
That's really where my interest is to, to take people fromthe ma making stage to the next
Jeremy: level. Andthat is where this that's why we do this podcast, Joshua, because we want tofocus people on making money. It's just, the more I dive in, the more it's itis very much hobbyist. Right. It's very much people that need you.
Won't no one will stick with something unless they love it.Right. The people who love it. Great. But the market is smaller than the peoplewho would want to monetize it. Right. So if you, if you say, well, we'rebuilding like a platform, right. Um, and we, [00:09:00] we don't have such ahuge community like right now. Um, but at the same time, You have all thesepeople that we want to like, use it and make it and see like, and we want tocreate these makers, but like, if you're, if you're paying, let's just say 50bucks a month for a platform and it makes you 200 a month.
You'll never cancel that. Right. Versus like, you loving itand you just love making something eventually nine months down the line you'regonna cancel or 18. Like, but if you're making. Even a hot, if I was paying 50bucks for something and I was making a hundred, I'd keep it right. Cause I losethe F.
Right. So that's the goal. So in no code for you and for nocode, um, uh, for no-code founders, you definitely have helped curate thatcommunity. And let's start by. Unfolding or unpacking how you initially gotyour first person in the ecosystem. How did [00:10:00] you start building it?What was the first brick?
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: So.I had the idea to create a Slack for code.
And basically it was really, really quick. I didn't do muchplanning at all. I set that up and I tweeted, devote to that. And when
Jeremy: was this?
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: Thiswas last may
Jeremy: Jesus.This was only a year ago. Yeah. Wow. Okay.
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: Um,and the Twitter's about that. And I got, I can't remember how many peoplejoined, but maybe five or 10.
Mmm. And I just had a conversation with them and then Itweeted, no, I posted in a bubble forum cause I'm, that was the main platformthat I used. And that'd be another 10 people joined from there. And after that,I can't really remember exactly everything I did,
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: Ididn't focus that [00:11:00] heavily on growth.
And just try to, I've always had a conversation with everyperson who joins. So until this day, um, find out what they're working on andget them engaged. Um, yeah, and really, I think that's probably, what's beenkey. I think it's not extremely fast growth or anything. It's not like a fastgrowing community.
But the key thing is that this is really engaged.
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: neverhad, we're just about to hit 50 homes and messages sent. So talking, I love totalk.
Jeremy: So it, areyou on the premium version then? So you can see those analytics like messagessent, or how does that work with Slack? No,
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: soyou can get basic analytics.
Okay. So now we're on the free plan.
Jeremy: Now withthose 2000 people that are in it, how many of those are like daily engaged,weekly engaged, monthly engaged
[00:12:00] Joshua (JT)Tiernan: over over 25% on a weekly basis.
Jeremy: Oh, wow.That's pretty good.
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: Yeah.
Jeremy: Like 25%on a weekly basis.
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: Yeah.
Jeremy: What isthe most popular cause I've been in there and it's cool how you've broke itout, right?
Like it's just, you have a channel for each platform. Itseems. So. What is the most busy platform platform channel, um,
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: bubbleand workflow, and then also irritable and take her mind on Zapier probablywould be the top ones.
Jeremy: Zapier hasgotta be my favorite. No code platform. Like, I don't know. That was my firstforay four years ago.
No one was saying no code, but for me, like to have. Zapierconnect apps and go off, someone fills out this form, it could send an emailand send me a text message, whatever it was and go to my CRM. Like that was an[00:13:00] incredible feat for me. Like that was like, I was like, Aw, this isgoing to change. I remember saying with someone who I was working with at thetime, four years ago, this was back in 16 when zap Zapier wasn't even asamazing as it was.
Um, and I was like, Oh dude, this is going to put engineersout of business. You know what I mean? It's just like, just like thinking aboutit going. I remember the impact, um, and building on it. And I think we, I thinkI have, I have multiple zaps now that have like a hundred steps. Like hundredsteps, apps.
Like I, I challenge anyone to use it. Like I use it, like Ihad to get written permission once from the Zapier team to get to go up to,they allow you with written permission to go up to like 125 steps. So like, Iwas like, yeah, I'm going to try this out. And we got a few that were 125,
[00:14:00] Joshua (JT)Tiernan: it takes me like hours to build one that's 10 steps.
Jeremy: Oh my God,dude, come on. No, it took forever to build, right. Like I was sitting therejust editing one thing and my eyes were fucking bleeding, you know, like I wasjust going off. Fuck that. But at the same time, To pay an engineer to do that.
Same thing would have been thousands and thousands ofdollars like to pay an engine. It would have been at a minimum, I'm guessingfive to 10 grand for that one thing I wanted to do well. So I mean, by the samestretch, I guess. Like I've seen this trend of people, um, where it's peoplebuild these no code agencies, right?
Like, and it's been a way that other people can make money,right? Like you go to these no code academies, you learn these programs betterthan anyone else. And you can essentially be like, cool, I can do this, this, this,and this for you. That's going to be five grand. And now you've got technicalpeople.
Have you seen the rise of these [00:15:00] no-code agencies?Have you been involved or dealt with any.
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: Um,I know some people from Norco didn't says, um, there's definitely an uptake inthe number, um, that coming around. Um, but no, I don't have an insight intoexactly how they work, but I mean, to me, it seems like a really logical thingand they can build faster and
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: And,you know, update things really quickly running costs too low. Um, so yeah, Ican completely see the appeal.
Jeremy: So tell methis. Uh, what is the coolest zap you've seen in the zap Slack channel?
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: Mmm.There's
Jeremy: a guy inthe community
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: calledGil, I think does a newsletter dealing newsletter called no-code coffee andit's like three every day you get three.
Uh, shots. They're feeling like a special shots and there'slike [00:16:00] one person from the community, one tool and one, uh, showcaseor something like that. And he's got this thing completely automated from anair table base. So he just curate stuff and. And it's all, it's all sayingautomatically cool little things going so that like he gets a preview of itsent them.
Each day so that you can approve it and things of this,
Jeremy: Michael, Ithink, I think I follow Michael. Like I just have you, have you dealt with himat all or
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: yeah.Yeah. I was talking to him a few times.
Jeremy: He is he'ssomeone who like, I want to have on the podcast. I just had a Emmanuel fromBabylon. He was, he was terrific.
Uh, Ben from maker pad, um, who's another community basedindividual. And with those two, how would you compare like no code [00:17:00]founders to like make her pad, right? Like you could obviously offer some ofthose classes and courses and stuff that they do. Is that something you've seenand you want to monetize?
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: Yeah,I was that, that was never my focus to go down that route, like the educationroute. And it just seems that everyone wants it though. Every time I ask what,what the people want. The number one thing is always tutorials. Mmm. And to me,there's already a lot of tutorials out there. Like it's not just makerPanthers, quite a few people telling them on the platforms to them themselvesas well.
Uh, so I'm still kind of toying with I'm a bit torn becausethat's not, was never my intention.
Jeremy: I mean,you want to monetize the passion, right? Like what are the things you havemonetized and no-code or like that you have built around with a no-code uh,
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: youmean other
Jeremy: projects?[00:18:00] Yeah. Like other projects. So if this isn't like the moneymaker,what do you do for full time?
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: Well,I'd like to make this, the moneymaker.
Jeremy: Got you.Okay.
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: Yeah.Just to find the right way to do that. Um,
Jeremy: we've cometo the right guy.
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: Yeah.You know, my bitch tutorials. That's the way I'm very conscious of becoming acarbon copy of make a pencil. Uh, aye,
Jeremy: dude. Fuckit though. Really? Really like don't you think?
I mean, realistically, you just said it. That most peopleare the fucking same. So like the number one thing that's going to sell coursesis going to be Josh, right. Or it's going to be Jeremy, or it's going to be thepeople you have in, or most of the things are like, have been said, right? Likeit's you experimenting?
And just going cool. Look at how I did this. Right? Like,look at how I made this email doing it. And then your, your personality isgoing to show where it's not. [00:19:00] Know what I mean? Or like people aregonna follow you or you're not right. So like, I don't know. It's you can dothe same thing. You've got a community of 2000 people that like, I bet youcould get, I bet you could get a quarter of them to buy a course, maybe.
Yeah. You know what I mean?
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: Yeah,definitely
Jeremy: like 20,25%.
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: Yeah,I think so.
Jeremy: So how dowe make some content? How, how do I help you make some content and do some shitand monetize some shit? Let's do it. I want it. I want it. I'm buying stocksand Josh man.
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: SoI've been thinking about the way I would, could work on not losing theentrepreneurship angle and things.
And to me, wait a good way to do it. Could be to have thecommunity creating the content, like the experts of their own platforms.
Jeremy: And youjust take a VIG.
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: So[00:20:00] like the platform could pay me to create a tutorials and I paysomeone else to actually create it. And then I'd bring it all together andbrilliant system.
Jeremy: Do youthink there is room for, so like what about you just like aggregating thecontent. Right. Like, because you said that and we're making up these businessideas right here on the spa, not boring business. This is the no-code CEO of metalking. So like, think about this, man. You just aggregate all the content andthen you package it because right now it's so fractured, dude, I would probablypay you at least a hundred bucks to like, give me the bit, maybe three, 400,ah, let's see.
Two, 300 bucks maybe. Just to like aggregate the content andgive it to me. Right. Like organize it. Well, put a nice little fucking designon it and go, here's a drip. It to me, I would definitely pay at a minimum, afew hundred dollars for that. [00:21:00] Do you know what I mean?
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: Youmean original content or you mean getting existing content,
Jeremy: gettingexisting content and just putting it?
Yeah, I mean, I don't want to fucking search. You're right.So if you're saving me time and you're organizing it and just finding dude,literally finding other, finding YouTube videos, you, you obviously have tolike customize a little bit, like write a few paragraphs, a couple of tips youwould summarize videos like, and you would go cool.
If you have any other questions, like this is good. I'm notgoing to reinvent the wheel, but I would pay a few hundred bucks to have itwell organized in summarize for me. So, like, not that you have to make a videois saying, Oh, here's what I did summarize something someone else did and belike, that's free on YouTube and you go, here's well organized links of curatedcontent, right.
With my summaries and my everything. Right. [00:22:00] Dripto you once every week. And I'm like, Oh fuck. Yeah. All right. I'll do that.Like where it may be, you get in and experiment on some other things. Yeah. Idon't know. I'd pay for that.
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: Interesting.
Jeremy: There'sone idea. No, I like it. So, and you have the 2000 people now.
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: Yeah.
Jeremy: So thinkabout this. Think about I'm coming in. I'm going to make some videos for you.You make some videos for me. This is going to take off this. Episode's alreadyfire. We've already given amazing, amazing value to these people. Where in yourmind does no code go from here?
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: SoI think, I think no code is going to be so big that people don't call it nocoats anymore.
Jeremy: like,okay. It's just the way to build something.
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: Yeah.Yeah.
Jeremy: think whendo you think that will happen though? Josh?
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: 10years, 10 years, I probably 10 years. But, um, the like, there's, there'squite, there's even funded companies. I can't think of any right now that arebuilding with no quote, um, for the early versions.
Jeremy: I know, Ineed to know these companies, people get funded based on building a no-code.
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: Yeah.I read about one yesterday and I can't remember who it was. I'm sorry,
Jeremy: this isgreat. This is the first failure of this episode.
You gotta send me that. I'll link it up and I'll link it upin the show
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: notes.Okay, cool.
Jeremy: So thereare, there are people that have gotten raised money building no code tools, butnone have been no coders. Okay. Alright,
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: well,yeah, potentially. Yeah, there might be developers and they've [00:24:00] usedno code solutions to build faster and validate.
Um, but makeup pads, spill with no coat as well.
Jeremy: Well,yeah, but maker pads just courses, right? So like, it's just, it's just thecontent engine. So like an actual platform you can call in. I get it. You cancall it anything, a platform written about like the actual technical tool ofshowing people how to be building.
Like, if you're, if you're saying here, here's my bubbletutorial, here's me showing you how to use bubble, right? Like that's youshowing someone else how to use a platform? So like, I'm thinking about otherpeople who have built a product, right. That product. Yeah. That builds thingsand does, right. Yeah.
Like a SAS product. Yeah. That is actually raising money.That's no code. So like we're in the middle of like a million dollar raiseright now. Cause we're [00:25:00] going through the launch accelerator and I ama no coder. So I, I would like you to scour scour the fucking Slack channel.Cause I need to know this. I need to know if I would be the first no code solofounder to build a no-code platform and raise a million dollars or more.
Wow. Have you heard of anyone like that, Josh? Um,
maybe not. I'm telling you, I'm telling you, you gottasearch. You gotta search. We gotta look, we gotta look, we're gonna worktogether. We gotta look at this because I'm going to come out and exclaim it.But if it's not the truth, like I've done my research on almost every fuckingplatform out there. Every single platformed, no code platform.
CEO is technical. [00:26:00] Everyone has a fucking computerscience degree. Okay, so I'm going to need your backup,
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: anumber one platform, founder. Mmm. Mark from builder.
Jeremy: What isbuilder again? A manual. Just brought that one up to me,
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: builtas an Philly live yet.
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: butthe phone isn't isn't technical.
Jeremy: I'm thefounder.
So where am I racing forward? Like where is he? What is the,what is builder? I guess?
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: Sobuild the, as probably I might be the most powerful platform yet. Uh,
Jeremy: morepowerful than
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: bubble.I'd say it's more peripheral in the middle. Yeah. It's like, it's a step up.
Jeremy: What's hisname?
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: Mark.Makinson
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: Yeah,I don't think he's taking the con
Jeremy: Mark[00:27:00] Magnusson.
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: Yeah,
Jeremy: I'mGoogling it right now. I can't Mark Magnusson. Okay, here we go.
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: Yep.Yeah, he's a good guy. And filter builder itself is built with builder.
Jeremy: Oh, that'sfucking cool. I mean, come on. That's awesome, dude. How does that happenthough? How does that happen? Like one, how do you know this stuff before itgoes, launched me?
Because you run the community
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: well,so I've got, uh, I've got be the access to building.
Jeremy: Oh bro.Lion. You're lying to me now. He's he's the CTO I builder. I see. Yeah. How hasthat, unless he's, unless he is non tech, unless he is non technical, but he'scalling himself the CTO. I mean, that could be, that could be, well,
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: Ithink, I think no Coulters can be CTOs.
Jeremy: Well, no,that's what I was saying. That's [00:28:00] interesting. That's an interestingtake. Like you're right. I'm a CTO, chief technical chief technical officer.Right? So like,
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: uh,the thing is like, I call myself a nontechnical founder and most no quartersdo, but it's still technical just because you don't write code and most, nocoders write some cool, but you know, that.
They know some CSS or something like that. Um, so I thinkit's just, it's the same thought process of building and I'm still logical. I'mstill, uh, but the same elements of creativity and problem solving, but you'rejust not right. You just don't know the language.
Jeremy: Sure andit's do you think, and we'll, I want to, we can end on this and like where nocode is going, do you think no code gets split at some point into verytechnical, robust tools [00:29:00] where it's you not learning the actuallanguage or reading it, but you're learning kind of this framework of how tobuild visually and then.
The people who want to just build something really, reallyfast. Cause I don't think you can, you can't have both like a manual frombubble was telling me that he focuses on the users that w that spend hours aday or hours a week on his platform. Because those are the serious builders,right? The people that are building the bubble agencies, et cetera.
And then there's the other faction of people that are theglides that just like, cool. I have this quick app really fast. Boom. Um, I'llthrow the V ones in there, but like it's, both. Do you see it split or fractured or do you, where do you kind ofsee it ending? Yeah,
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: Isee, I see that distinction there. So there's.
Once there's platforms that you could build a business withand then there's platforms that probably not. So [00:30:00] they're more forlike creating something to show with friends are like internal tools, quick,things like that. Um, so, and that's another section is internal tools.
Jeremy: Yeah.Right? Like an enterprise based stuff.
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: Yeah.And even like, just, you know, like you can use air table to build, uh, likeyour own project management system, um, things. So, um, I dunno. I don't knowthe answer to that question is
Jeremy: okay.Well, I guess we'll find out. Yeah, me and you will find out here shortly whenwe start coming out with all this classes and academies and shit.
Yeah. Oh, I wanted to hit you up. Um, how does one get thehashtag channel on there so I could get feedback or something drive? Is that apayment thing? Is that a [00:31:00] sponsor thing? What does that,
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: so,yeah, that's something I normally include in partnership.
Jeremy: Oh, allright. Well, let's talk, partnership off the line.
Okay. So every, where can everyone sign up? Where caneveryone eventually see the V one channel on Slack? Where can they sign up tosee that in your Slack group? So,
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: um,they can say, you mean existing members?
Jeremy: Yep. Wherecan they see? Where can they see it? Where can they sign up for the, for the,uh, the Slack group?
No co-founders dot com
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: liquidfounders.com. There's an email address for the top stick to email in there, andthen you'll get an invite
Jeremy: and thenyou'll get a, you'll get a special hand wave from Joshua Tiernan. Yup.
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: I'lldefinitely say hello
Jeremy: you, youare one of the best, one of the biggest community leaders, uh, and no code.
And I hope I truly hope to [00:32:00] collaborate. Uh, Wherecan what's your Twitter handle? Where can they find you?
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: Joshuaunderscore Tiernan, T I E R
Jeremy: N E N.Boom. Folks. You hear, you heard it from the man himself? Uh, he's building,he's building courses. Now he's going to curate content and he's going tomonetize it.
Then he's going to come back on the podcast and go. What aterrific thing, right?
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: Yeah,you were right.
Jeremy: Cool.Thanks so much for coming on Josh. No
Joshua (JT) Tiernan: problem.Thanks for having me.